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Team
Mercedes

Lap Time
1:43.007

Race Mode
Time Trail

Weather
Dry

Format
PC

Controller Type
Wheel

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 7
Rear Wing Aero: 4

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 80%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 80%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.50
Rear Camber: -2.00
Front Toe: 0.10
Rear Toe: 0.35

Suspension
Font Suspension: 9
Rear Suspension: 4
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 3
Front Ride Height: 4
Rear Ride Height: 2

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 7

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On 23/08/2016 at 1:49 PM, Jamppee_ said:

Ferrari?

To be fair most setups are easily transferrable between teams. I'm doing career mode with manor; some of the best setups i've used so far have been designed for Renault.

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On 08/25/2016 at 0:00 AM, Jiraiya761 said:

To be fair most setups are easily transferrable between teams. I'm doing career mode with manor; some of the best setups i've used so far have been designed for Renault.

So, how i can transfer between teams? here is only mercedes. It doesnt work for me.  i just dont get setups right.

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On 25/8/2016 at 6:27 PM, Jamppee_ said:

So, how i can transfer between teams? here is only mercedes. It doesnt work for me.  i just dont get setups right.

Just use the same setup, you don't need to transfer anything, they meant that they can be used with pretty much any car.

There are some minor differences, but as general rule, the Mercedes should work for most cars out there, although you wouldn't expect the same times, maybe the same handling... I think only in 2013 there was a noticeable difference between teams in a way they weren't completely interchangeable.

And I also invite you to try for yourself, after all only you know your driving style and what works for it. For example in Baku you can start with the default setup or the mid-high downforce setup and from there start tweaking with the settings. First brakes and ballast, then toe and camber, the aero, then stiffness and anti-roll, then the rest. At least that's the procedure I use to achieve something that fits my style. I prefer to use the curbs and break late into the corner in a more reckless style while others prefer a more smooth and methodical trek. It depends on you. That's what free practices are there for.

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Tried every setup for the track, and attempted 6 laps in practice.  Each lap, I got a puncture.  What am I doing wrong?  A friend who does racing games suggested I try lowering the tyre pressures, would this work?

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Team
Manor (Career Legend)

Lap Time
1:44.394

Race Mode
Qualify / Practise

Weather
Dry

Format
XboxOne 

Controller Type
Controller

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 5
Rear Wing Aero: 2

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 65%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 65%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.50
Rear Camber: -1.70
Front Toe:0.11 
Rear Toe: 0.40

Suspension
Font Suspension: 8
Rear Suspension: 6
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 4
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 5
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 4

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 89%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.8psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 6

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18 hours ago, anonymousman84 said:

Tried every setup for the track, and attempted 6 laps in practice.  Each lap, I got a puncture.  What am I doing wrong?  A friend who does racing games suggested I try lowering the tyre pressures, would this work?

You sure you ain't brushng the walls? In the last corner you can eat the wall for breakfast or just brush it and get a puncture tyre in reduced damage or wreck the entire axis in simulation. Other than that I can't see other reason except using full wets on dry tarmac. Most of this setups actually use either low or average tyre pressure.

I began my setup based on James'. Using the Renault with some upgrades I found I was lacking in S1 and S3 so I made some minor adjustments to win some time in S1 and make sure the tyres stayed frosty while pushing hard with an overfueled car. I'm an average driver (struggling to keep up in Exprt), but my S2 was on par with Bulls but on S1 and S3 I was .300 even .400 faster than the Mercs. On Quali I managed to post a 1:45.200. Maybe someone else can squeeze some extra from the car.

Team
Renault (Expert)

Lap Time
1:45.200

Race Mode
Career Race

Weather
Dry

Controller Type
Controller

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 3

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 75%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 75%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.30
Rear Camber: -1.80
Front Toe: 0.10
Rear Toe: 0.35

Suspension
Font Suspension: 8
Rear Suspension: 4
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 3
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 2

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 85%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.4psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 8

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On 27/08/2016 at 3:02 AM, Merengues said:

Just use the same setup, you don't need to transfer anything, they meant that they can be used with pretty much any car.

There are some minor differences, but as general rule, the Mercedes should work for most cars out there, although you wouldn't expect the same times, maybe the same handling... I think only in 2013 there was a noticeable difference between teams in a way they weren't completely interchangeable.

And I also invite you to try for yourself, after all only you know your driving style and what works for it. For example in Baku you can start with the default setup or the mid-high downforce setup and from there start tweaking with the settings. First brakes and ballast, then toe and camber, the aero, then stiffness and anti-roll, then the rest. At least that's the procedure I use to achieve something that fits my style. I prefer to use the curbs and break late into the corner in a more reckless style while others prefer a more smooth and methodical trek. It depends on you. That's what free practices are there for.

This.

I've found this year that I've been using variations of either James' Mercedes setups, or the Renault ones posted by another user whose handle escapes me.

As Merengues said, try and go for one that fits your driving style rather than push for laptime. The longer a race distance you race, the more important this fact becomes. Laptime comes with a number of factors; the most crucial one being driving ability; the other being controller type. Someone who is flawless with a wheel and peddles will always get a better laptime than someone using a keyboard or gamepad controller.

Use the practice sessions to 'feel' how the setup behaves. What do you like about it? Or rather, what don't you like? Does it understeer in slow corners? If so, give a bit more front wing (or reduce the rear wing; I often recommend doing a little bit of both). If you're eating through your tyres, have a look at brake pressure (if you're not using assists) and reduce the camber on the suspension geometry; see if that helps. Might also be worth running higher downforce to reduce sliding through some of the higher-speed corners.

Personally I like cars that are quite 'edgy' and 'loose', so I often take a good setup posted on here and take a couple of notches off the wing; increase the brake pressure etc. It does mean that in the race I have to go with a 'low tyre management' strategy else i'll get punctures, but on pretty much any circuit that involves high speed I usually end up outperforming the expectations of the car.

TL;DR: Practice, dude. If you can't find a setup on here that suits, then take one that others have had success with, and tweak it to make it your own. It's why F1 has practice sessions in the first place.

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Team
Ferrari

Lap Time
Training Session 3

1:44:694

Qualyfing

1:42:944

Race

1:45:227

Race Mode
Carrer

Weather
Dry

Format
PC

Controller Type
XBox Controller (I use it like an PS1 Controller)

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 7
Rear Wing Aero: 4

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 80%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 80%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.00
Rear Camber: -1.50
Front Toe: 0.10
Rear Toe: 0.35

Suspension
Font Suspension: 6
Rear Suspension: 6
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 6
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 6
Front Ride Height: 4
Rear Ride Height: 2

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 75%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 6

James Setup is not bad at all was 0.5 sec faster in Training Session 3 but goes hard on tyre wear.

If you like a bit more oversteer use Ballast on 7 . For me it was a solid Setup !

Would be nice if someone test it out :-)

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On 8/28/2016 at 10:52 AM, Merengues said:

You sure you ain't brushng the walls? In the last corner you can eat the wall for breakfast or just brush it and get a puncture tyre in reduced damage or wreck the entire axis in simulation. Other than that I can't see other reason except using full wets on dry tarmac. Most of this setups actually use either low or average tyre pressure.

I began my setup based on James'. Using the Renault with some upgrades I found I was lacking in S1 and S3 so I made some minor adjustments to win some time in S1 and make sure the tyres stayed frosty while pushing hard with an overfueled car. I'm an average driver (struggling to keep up in Exprt), but my S2 was on par with Bulls but on S1 and S3 I was .300 even .400 faster than the Mercs. On Quali I managed to post a 1:45.200. Maybe someone else can squeeze some extra from the car.

Team
Renault (Expert)

Lap Time
1:45.200

Race Mode
Career Race

Weather
Dry

Controller Type
Controller

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 3

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 75% (80%)
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 75%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.30
Rear Camber: -1.80
Front Toe: 0.10
Rear Toe: 0.35

Suspension
Font Suspension: 8
Rear Suspension: 4
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 3
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 2

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 85% (80%)
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.4psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 8 (5-6)

Edits are bolded

Playing on Expert Career mode, racing line only, DFGT Wheel
I lowered the brake pressure to 80 (85 gave me too much lock-up), and upped the on-throttle to 80% (Less wheelspin on the slow-corners), and set balance to 5-6 (I prefer oversteer) And I just drove a 1:44.6 in the Renault F1 with two engine , 1 drag, 1 weight, and 2 downforce upgrades in Practice 2!

It put me ahead of Nico by .600, and the laps were pretty much about pushing myself to the limit so I drove on rich with supersofts. I personally was shocked at how much I demolished the Mercedes cars (Merc and Rari had faster S1 pace, still!).
If I didn't have a Renault engine, i'd hazard to say i'd probably would've gotten close to the 1:43's.

I think my quali times will be even higher, when i'm driving with the bare minimum of fuel (2x lean, 1x rich lap)

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Team
Mercedes

Lap Time
1.40,706

Race Mode
Time Trail

Weather
Dry

Format
PC

Controller Type
Wheel (T500RS F1)

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 4
Rear Wing Aero: 2

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 70%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -2.50
Rear Camber: -1.00
Front Toe: 0.08
Rear Toe: 0.29

Suspension
Font Suspension: 11
Rear Suspension: 2
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 11
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 10
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 5

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 25.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 23.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 11

Video


My Setup in the F1 2016 Workshop 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=756045594

Note

First i tried it with medium Downforce, but all time and some more were lost in the last sector so i switched to low wings and soft rear springs to increase topspeed and traction and it worked beautifully

Have fun!

 
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2 hours ago, deknegt said:

Edits are bolded

Playing on Expert Career mode, racing line only, DFGT Wheel
I lowered the brake pressure to 80 (85 gave me too much lock-up), and upped the on-throttle to 80% (Less wheelspin on the slow-corners), and set balance to 5-6 (I prefer oversteer) And I just drove a 1:44.6 in the Renault F1 with two engine , 1 drag, 1 weight, and 2 downforce upgrades in Practice 2!

It put me ahead of Nico by .600, and the laps were pretty much about pushing myself to the limit so I drove on rich with supersofts. I personally was shocked at how much I demolished the Mercedes cars (Merc and Rari had faster S1 pace, still!).
If I didn't have a Renault engine, i'd hazard to say i'd probably would've gotten close to the 1:43's.

I think my quali times will be even higher, when i'm driving with the bare minimum of fuel (2x lean, 1x rich lap)

Thanks for the feedback. I mainly go for understeer because I use a controller, and there's no taking light the corners with it, you either go all out or end up eating the wall or out of the track. Try braking early into corners 1 through 4 then push it to the metal during the turn instead of braking late or being soft on the throttle, hence the brake pressure and unblocked differential... The Renault also has a weird gear ratio, try getting one extra gear down just in case. I use assisted manual shifts (otherwise is tiring on the controller) and often have to correct the suggested gear to not end up out of track.

If you keep doing regular during the next races you'll find out that the Renault asks nothing from the Mercedes at least on Expert. I'm currently on Spa with almost half the upgrades (upgrades are way too cheap for the Renault) and I'm already starting to catch up, I just took pole with a car not even close to the Mercedes, demolishing everyone's time on S1 by .780 on softs (the Expert AI is too slow in C1 and Eau Rouge).

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Team
Renault

Lap Time

1:45.287 (race)
 

Race Mode
Career

Weather
Dry

Format
xbox one

Controller Type
Control pad

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 7
Rear Wing Aero: 4

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 70%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.50
Rear Camber: -2.00
Front Toe: 0.10
Rear Toe: 0.35

Suspension
Font Suspension: 9
Rear Suspension: 4
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 3
Front Ride Height: 4
Rear Ride Height: 2

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 7

 

note: finished 1st by about 8sec, slight variant on james setup, very good setup, tyre wear very good, was able to change from 3 stop to 2 stop strategy

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On 8/28/2016 at 2:17 AM, jb_burgess said:

Team
Manor (Career Legend)

Lap Time
1:44.394

Race Mode
Qualify / Practise

Weather
Dry

Format
XboxOne 

Controller Type
Controller

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 5
Rear Wing Aero: 2

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 65%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 65%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.50
Rear Camber: -1.70
Front Toe:0.11 
Rear Toe: 0.40

Suspension
Font Suspension: 8
Rear Suspension: 6
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 4
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 5
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 4

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 89%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.8psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 6

Cheers for that setup. Worked well with my new Thrustmaster 300:

 

baku qually.jpg-large

baku qually.jpg

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On 1. September 2016 at 7:57 PM, M41k_R said:

Team
Mercedes

Lap Time
1.40,706

Race Mode
Time Trail

Weather
Dry

Format
PC

Controller Type
Wheel (T500RS F1)

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 4
Rear Wing Aero: 2

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 70%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -2.50
Rear Camber: -1.00
Front Toe: 0.08
Rear Toe: 0.29

Suspension
Font Suspension: 11
Rear Suspension: 2
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 11
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 10
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 5

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 25.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 23.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 11

Video


My Setup in the F1 2016 Workshop 
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=756045594

Note

First i tried it with medium Downforce, but all time and some more were lost in the last sector so i switched to low wings and soft rear springs to increase topspeed and traction and it worked beautifully

Have fun!

 

Managed a 1:40.298 in Q3 with Mercedes.

Best setup i've tried so far. ??

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Team
Mercedes

Lap Time
1:43.038

Race Mode
Time Trail

Weather
Dry

Format
PS4

Controller Type
Control Pad

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 6

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 70%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -2.50
Rear Camber: -1.00
Front Toe: 0.05
Rear Toe: 0.20

Suspension
Font Suspension: 11
Rear Suspension: 2
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 11
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 11
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 5

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 82%
Front Brake Bias: 64%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 24.6psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 23.1psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 11

Video:

 

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Team:
Sauber

 

Lap Time:
1:48:031

 

Aerodynamics:
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 4

 

Transmission:
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 73%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 68%

Suspension Geometry:
Front Camber: -3.30
Rear Camber: -1.80
Front Toe: 0.14
Rear Toe: 0.40

 

Suspension:
Font Suspension: 5
Rear Suspension: 7
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 5
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 4
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 5

 

Brakes:
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 57%

 

Tyres:
Front Tyre Pressure: 22.6 psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.1 psi

 

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 8

Notes:

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 Team :

Ferrari 

Aerodynamics:
Front Wing Aero: 4
Rear Wing Aero: 3

 

Transmission:
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 70%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry:
Front Camber: -3.20
Rear Camber: -1.70
Front Toe: 0.12
Rear Toe: 0.37

 

Suspension:
Font Suspension: 6
Rear Suspension: 5
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 6
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 5
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 3

 

Brakes:
Brake Pressure: 85%
Front Brake Bias: 62%

 

Tyres:
Front Tyre Pressure:23.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

 

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 8

:)HOT LAP in Race 1:41,8..

Setup Distance: 100% 

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Team
Mercedes

Lap Time
1:42,034

Race Mode
Time Trail

Weather
Dry

Format
PS4

Controller Type
Controller 

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 2
Rear Wing Aero: 1

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 80%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -2,60
Rear Camber: -1,20
Front Toe: 0.06
Rear Toe: 0.26

Suspension
Font Suspension: 7
Rear Suspension: 7
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 9
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 9
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 4

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 87%
Front Brake Bias: 62%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.4psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.9psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 9

I hope you like it !

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Team
McLaren

Lap Time
1:42.456

Race Mode
Career

Weather
Dry

Format
PS4

Controller Type
Pad

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 4

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 50%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 70%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -2.70
Rear Camber: -1.00
Front Toe: 0.09
Rear Toe: 0.31

Suspension
Font Suspension: 10
Rear Suspension: 2
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 2
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 10
Front Ride Height: 5
Rear Ride Height: 5

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 85%
Front Brake Bias: 61%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 22.2psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 23.1psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 11

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Team
ManorRacing MRT 

Lap Time
1:41:974

Race Mode
Career

Weather
Dry

Format
PS4

Controller Type
Controller

Aerodynamics
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 3

Transmission
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 68%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 68%

Suspension Geometry
Front Camber: -3.20
Rear Camber: -1.70
Front Toe: 0.11
Rear Toe: 0.42

Suspension
Font Suspension: 8
Rear Suspension: 6
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 4
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 5
Front Ride Height: 3
Rear Ride Height: 4

Brakes
Brake Pressure: 82%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.0psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 6

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Team:
AMG Mercedes

Lap Time:
1:43.588

Aerodynamics:
Front Wing Aero: 7
Rear Wing Aero: 4

Transmission:
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 80%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 80%

Suspension Geometry:
Front Camber: -3.40
Rear Camber: -1.90
Front Toe: 0.11
Rear Toe: 0.34

Suspension:
Font Suspension: 8
Rear Suspension: 4
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 3
Front Ride Height: 4
Rear Ride Height: 2

Brakes:
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 60%

Tyres:
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.0 psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.5 psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 8

I used the setup of "James" with a few changes.

 

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Team:
Red Bull Racing

Lap Time:
1:44.197

Aerodynamics:
Front Wing Aero: 6
Rear Wing Aero: 4

Transmission:
Differential Adjustment On Throttle: 80%
Differential Adjustment Off throttle: 75%


Suspension Geometry:
Front Camber: -3.20
Rear Camber: -1.70
Front Toe: 0.11
Rear Toe: 0.34

Suspension:
Font Suspension: 7
Rear Suspension: 7
Front Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Rear Anti-Roll Bar: 8
Front Ride Height: 4
Rear Ride Height: 5

Brakes:
Brake Pressure: 80%
Front Brake Bias: 62%

Tyres:
Front Tyre Pressure: 23.4 psi
Rear Tyre Pressure: 21.9 psi

Weight Distribution
Ballast: 9

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